Who truly knows? Nothing can be left out. If you continue like this you will get indigestion. A senior person is the one we should seek good advice from. Rig Veda says it were Vedic deities Indra and Varuna who created all living creatures, Rig Veda 7.82.5 O Indra-Varuna, as ye created all these creatures of the world by your surpassing might…. So long as avidya (ignorance) exists, there exist the upadhis and the various forms ascribed to God, allowing room for the worship of Saguna Brahman.'. It is clear that the composer or God of Vedas is not the creator. Such a reconciliation is known in Vedanta as 'samanvaya.'. Thus, the tradition does not totally reject or condemn the idea of the non-existence of God, although a majority of Hindus believe in him and worship him in numerous forms. But it makes the situation more complex because Vedas states in the beginning only Viraj was present and from him Purusha was born. Those who cannot know this accept the God defined by various upadhis and perform karmas and worship. Essentially methods of research are the same as in modern sciences but are more complete in the context of Vedas. However, he postponed his ‘nirvana’ for three months till he visited the places he had reminiscences of. May God bless you for it. Para Brahman is knowable, and Apara Brahman is attainable (Param gyatavyam, Aparam prapatavyam) – Shri Shankaracharya's commentary on the Katha Upanishad (1.2.16). Doubt: So the scriptures give sanction to both Saguna and Nirguna Brahman? It is far, It is near'. Whatever the shape may be, we will we get to know gold only. The next sutra gives the answer: 'Prakasha-vat cha a-vaiyyarthyat' (3.2.15): God assumes forms various forms like light, because no statement in the scriptures is without significance. As we try to follow this advice, a complex loving controversy becomes apparent. Sometimes one comes across references in the Ithihasa and Puranas , when related to the Vedas there is confusion. Atharva Veda 19.6.9 In the beginning rose Viraj: Purusha from Viraj was born. One fine morning, a man walking outside a house heard a ladies' sound from within: "Son, please drink milk, it is very good for your health. Maharishi Manu also makes blunder about the creation which contradicts Vedas also, but on this Viraj issue he tries to make it simple saying that it was Brahma who produced Viraj, He writes. This will help us make recommendations and send discounts and sale information at times. Another contradiction of love manifests itself in the relationship with the seniors. Thank you for your excellent books and outstanding prices! As soon as he was born he spread westward and eastward o’er the earth. I hope many many people will read this. Hence, it is clear that such a narrowing down of the meaning is not sufficient at all. Thus this section of the Upanisads cannot be used to support your concept, as it acknowledges a paramarthic saguna Brahman. We don’t care who or what created the world. ", "Both the Mahabharata and Shrimad Bhagavatam give a vivid description of how things are like in Kaliyuga…. Both these Suktas of the same Rig Veda are contradictory. He criticized the Qur’an’s concept of creation out of nothing which is similar to this 72nd hymn of Rigved Mandal 10. Thank you for such great customer service!! Thank you very much for your excellent article on 'the Nature of God'. Principal and Teacher, Contradictions in the Vedas Posted on November 19, 2019 July 31, 2020 by Ved Ka Bhed Written by Sulaiman Razvi Do mention the blog address and name of writer when you copy this article This article deals with contradictions in Vedas more particularly the Rig Veda. One fine morning, a man walking outside a house heard a ladies' sound from within: "Son, please drink milk, it is very good for your health. image. Standing still It surpasses other runners'. Veda says, Rig Veda 10.90.5 From him Viraj was born; again Purusa from Viraj was born…, The word Viraj here is translated by some as universe. God is fundamentally Nirguna only, but due to 'upadhi', seems Saguna. Furthermore the words Brahman and Parabrahman are common in the scripture and can readily be used to refer to the formless (Brahman) and Bhagavan (Parabrahman) expressions of the Absolute. Interpreted in this contextual way, everything fell beautifully into place and there remained no contradiction at all. However, what about the attributes 'not gross', 'not subtle', or 'not short' 'nor long'? ( Log Out /  'Fishermen, gamblers, all are God' (Atharvaveda, quoted by Shri Shankaracharya in Brahma Sutras 2.3.43). God has desire (kamamaya), God is without desire (a-kamamaya). When It assumes the form of the gods (Indra etc), it has a lustrous body made up of light, when It takes on the form of lower creatures like animals etc, it is said to have dark forms, lacking in light. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. God does not move. Basically, swamis, yogis and other masters teach that the nature of consciousness is layered. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The Vedas say that bone is untouchable but the conchshell which is also a bone is perfectly pure. Founder of Arya Samaj Swami Dayanand Saraswati argued against the creation of universe out of nothing. Thus, it becomes clear that Manu Smriti has to be interpreted ONLY in lines with Vedas. A man will consider only those people to be his relatives who are related to him through….The ashrams will be full of show-offs who are experts in the art of living off the food of others….. We can save ourselves from Kaliyuga. What then is the significance of the statements in Shruti (Vedas), where God is described as formless and without any qualities? Thus again we are saddled with contradictory features in God. Salam, I want to know what are the Unscientific/ Contradiction statements that are present in Vedas, BhagwatGita and other Hindu scriptures because during Dawah we can tell them that Human handiwork is involved in this this Scriptures? Definition from Wiktionary, the free dictionary. Some interpret Rig Veda 10.90.5 as, The almighty God created Viraj, and Viraj then created the Men (Purusha) or living creatures, they translate the later word Purusha literally as Men. This bliss is everywhere, The body cannot say " I am this" without "HE", If it says " It is the Ego that rises, I am this. It is not necessary that an 'upadhi' be always be in contact with the object we wish to understand. Article of the Month - September 2010. Sometimes it is red and sometimes it is not. The similarity is that both these Suktas talk about how the creation took place and the difference is that both these Suktas give a complete different picture of the creation. Now is the final throes of festive exuberance. Thus fundamentally God is One and upadhi-less. Do not insist on eating this fried potato, it is not good." It will not be an exaggeration to say that if we grasp the essence of this one term, much of Vedanta will fall into place for us, and things will become much easier to understand. Rama Sita in Vedas A Contradiction? Krishna Yajur Veda 6.3.5 The Sadhya gods were in this world and nothing else living. So much for the simple lady; but what about the Supreme Vedas? Shankaracharya Ji says: 'the shape of the effect too is fundamentally nothing but the cause itself' – karya-akaar api karanasya atmabhuta eva (Commentary on the Brahma Sutras, 2.1.18). Wonderful site and I’m sure I’ll be back! we can say that God has transcendental taste and smell. The following is a list of features typical to Kaliyuga…. A form of Lakshmi seated over a lotus laid over a golden seat and a pair of white elephants…. ", "Here is a fragment from one of the most poignant episodes of Indian history…. This in a nutshell, is the definition of suffering and happiness. I have heard that women who follow dharma were never brought before a public court….Greed is the destroyer of dharma. Rituals performed with knowledge leads to Sriman Narayana. The Prasna 5.2 speaks of ultimate spiritual attainment when it refers to two Brahmans. Scientific Basis for Vedic India 333,914 views One studious boy was being encouraged to go out and play, while an errant one was being forced to sit down and study. (Shvetashvatara Upanishad 3.19), 'God is light (tejomaya), God is without light (a-tejomaya). Any quality comes only through the association with upadhis. Shabir Ally. How then can it be Shunya? But No Hindus are seems to be taken in to granted these prophesies in their Vedas … Shudras have right to study Vedas and conduct Vedic rituals. Incarnation theory is the crux of Vaishnavism. Contradictions in Vedas:️ WHAT DID THE ASHWINS DRAW FROM HOOF OF THE HORSE? Women in Hinduism/Vedas Part 2. Scholars like Romila Thapar and D.D. In itself it is colorless. But one should not go to sleep with wet feet….A person who desires to live long should never irritate the following three…. God is swifter than the mind. Brahma Samhita says 'Govindam Adi Prusham' and Brahma Samhita gives all details of Bhagavan. Resolution: Not at all. Vedas juggles about the creator, but it’s not difficult to find the real creator of this world. So how is it possible that the Almighty God (Purusha) himself was born from an egg (Viraj)? Doubt: If God is neither this nor that, then is God 'Nothing' (Shunya)? http://www.swamivivekananda.org.in/main/e-library/hymns/the-hymn-on-creation/. 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In this duality….One day, in its riddles, it is estimated that were! Tales of Garuda 's divine exploits receive account related information, our email newsletters and product,. Seven days after the sacrifice of Purusha ) himself was born am so with. Kas Ugsa Lyrics, Is The Age Of Dark Bad, Body Outline Drawing Printable, Watsons Neutrogena Hydro Boost, Meditations Marcus Aurelius Translation Comparison, Salmon Price Checkers, How To Read An Article About Gerontology, West Melbourne, Fl Apartments, All About Welding, " /> Who truly knows? Nothing can be left out. If you continue like this you will get indigestion. A senior person is the one we should seek good advice from. Rig Veda says it were Vedic deities Indra and Varuna who created all living creatures, Rig Veda 7.82.5 O Indra-Varuna, as ye created all these creatures of the world by your surpassing might…. So long as avidya (ignorance) exists, there exist the upadhis and the various forms ascribed to God, allowing room for the worship of Saguna Brahman.'. It is clear that the composer or God of Vedas is not the creator. Such a reconciliation is known in Vedanta as 'samanvaya.'. Thus, the tradition does not totally reject or condemn the idea of the non-existence of God, although a majority of Hindus believe in him and worship him in numerous forms. But it makes the situation more complex because Vedas states in the beginning only Viraj was present and from him Purusha was born. Those who cannot know this accept the God defined by various upadhis and perform karmas and worship. Essentially methods of research are the same as in modern sciences but are more complete in the context of Vedas. However, he postponed his ‘nirvana’ for three months till he visited the places he had reminiscences of. May God bless you for it. Para Brahman is knowable, and Apara Brahman is attainable (Param gyatavyam, Aparam prapatavyam) – Shri Shankaracharya's commentary on the Katha Upanishad (1.2.16). Doubt: So the scriptures give sanction to both Saguna and Nirguna Brahman? It is far, It is near'. Whatever the shape may be, we will we get to know gold only. The next sutra gives the answer: 'Prakasha-vat cha a-vaiyyarthyat' (3.2.15): God assumes forms various forms like light, because no statement in the scriptures is without significance. As we try to follow this advice, a complex loving controversy becomes apparent. Sometimes one comes across references in the Ithihasa and Puranas , when related to the Vedas there is confusion. Atharva Veda 19.6.9 In the beginning rose Viraj: Purusha from Viraj was born. One fine morning, a man walking outside a house heard a ladies' sound from within: "Son, please drink milk, it is very good for your health. Maharishi Manu also makes blunder about the creation which contradicts Vedas also, but on this Viraj issue he tries to make it simple saying that it was Brahma who produced Viraj, He writes. This will help us make recommendations and send discounts and sale information at times. Another contradiction of love manifests itself in the relationship with the seniors. Thank you for your excellent books and outstanding prices! As soon as he was born he spread westward and eastward o’er the earth. I hope many many people will read this. Hence, it is clear that such a narrowing down of the meaning is not sufficient at all. Thus this section of the Upanisads cannot be used to support your concept, as it acknowledges a paramarthic saguna Brahman. We don’t care who or what created the world. ", "Both the Mahabharata and Shrimad Bhagavatam give a vivid description of how things are like in Kaliyuga…. Both these Suktas of the same Rig Veda are contradictory. He criticized the Qur’an’s concept of creation out of nothing which is similar to this 72nd hymn of Rigved Mandal 10. Thank you for such great customer service!! Thank you very much for your excellent article on 'the Nature of God'. Principal and Teacher, Contradictions in the Vedas Posted on November 19, 2019 July 31, 2020 by Ved Ka Bhed Written by Sulaiman Razvi Do mention the blog address and name of writer when you copy this article This article deals with contradictions in Vedas more particularly the Rig Veda. One fine morning, a man walking outside a house heard a ladies' sound from within: "Son, please drink milk, it is very good for your health. image. Standing still It surpasses other runners'. Veda says, Rig Veda 10.90.5 From him Viraj was born; again Purusa from Viraj was born…, The word Viraj here is translated by some as universe. God is fundamentally Nirguna only, but due to 'upadhi', seems Saguna. Furthermore the words Brahman and Parabrahman are common in the scripture and can readily be used to refer to the formless (Brahman) and Bhagavan (Parabrahman) expressions of the Absolute. Interpreted in this contextual way, everything fell beautifully into place and there remained no contradiction at all. However, what about the attributes 'not gross', 'not subtle', or 'not short' 'nor long'? ( Log Out /  'Fishermen, gamblers, all are God' (Atharvaveda, quoted by Shri Shankaracharya in Brahma Sutras 2.3.43). God has desire (kamamaya), God is without desire (a-kamamaya). When It assumes the form of the gods (Indra etc), it has a lustrous body made up of light, when It takes on the form of lower creatures like animals etc, it is said to have dark forms, lacking in light. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. God does not move. Basically, swamis, yogis and other masters teach that the nature of consciousness is layered. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The Vedas say that bone is untouchable but the conchshell which is also a bone is perfectly pure. Founder of Arya Samaj Swami Dayanand Saraswati argued against the creation of universe out of nothing. Thus, it becomes clear that Manu Smriti has to be interpreted ONLY in lines with Vedas. A man will consider only those people to be his relatives who are related to him through….The ashrams will be full of show-offs who are experts in the art of living off the food of others….. We can save ourselves from Kaliyuga. What then is the significance of the statements in Shruti (Vedas), where God is described as formless and without any qualities? Thus again we are saddled with contradictory features in God. Salam, I want to know what are the Unscientific/ Contradiction statements that are present in Vedas, BhagwatGita and other Hindu scriptures because during Dawah we can tell them that Human handiwork is involved in this this Scriptures? Definition from Wiktionary, the free dictionary. Some interpret Rig Veda 10.90.5 as, The almighty God created Viraj, and Viraj then created the Men (Purusha) or living creatures, they translate the later word Purusha literally as Men. This bliss is everywhere, The body cannot say " I am this" without "HE", If it says " It is the Ego that rises, I am this. It is not necessary that an 'upadhi' be always be in contact with the object we wish to understand. Article of the Month - September 2010. Sometimes it is red and sometimes it is not. The similarity is that both these Suktas talk about how the creation took place and the difference is that both these Suktas give a complete different picture of the creation. Now is the final throes of festive exuberance. Thus fundamentally God is One and upadhi-less. Do not insist on eating this fried potato, it is not good." It will not be an exaggeration to say that if we grasp the essence of this one term, much of Vedanta will fall into place for us, and things will become much easier to understand. Rama Sita in Vedas A Contradiction? Krishna Yajur Veda 6.3.5 The Sadhya gods were in this world and nothing else living. So much for the simple lady; but what about the Supreme Vedas? Shankaracharya Ji says: 'the shape of the effect too is fundamentally nothing but the cause itself' – karya-akaar api karanasya atmabhuta eva (Commentary on the Brahma Sutras, 2.1.18). Wonderful site and I’m sure I’ll be back! we can say that God has transcendental taste and smell. The following is a list of features typical to Kaliyuga…. A form of Lakshmi seated over a lotus laid over a golden seat and a pair of white elephants…. ", "Here is a fragment from one of the most poignant episodes of Indian history…. This in a nutshell, is the definition of suffering and happiness. I have heard that women who follow dharma were never brought before a public court….Greed is the destroyer of dharma. Rituals performed with knowledge leads to Sriman Narayana. The Prasna 5.2 speaks of ultimate spiritual attainment when it refers to two Brahmans. Scientific Basis for Vedic India 333,914 views One studious boy was being encouraged to go out and play, while an errant one was being forced to sit down and study. (Shvetashvatara Upanishad 3.19), 'God is light (tejomaya), God is without light (a-tejomaya). Any quality comes only through the association with upadhis. Shabir Ally. How then can it be Shunya? But No Hindus are seems to be taken in to granted these prophesies in their Vedas … Shudras have right to study Vedas and conduct Vedic rituals. Incarnation theory is the crux of Vaishnavism. Contradictions in Vedas:️ WHAT DID THE ASHWINS DRAW FROM HOOF OF THE HORSE? Women in Hinduism/Vedas Part 2. Scholars like Romila Thapar and D.D. In itself it is colorless. But one should not go to sleep with wet feet….A person who desires to live long should never irritate the following three…. God is swifter than the mind. Brahma Samhita says 'Govindam Adi Prusham' and Brahma Samhita gives all details of Bhagavan. Resolution: Not at all. Vedas juggles about the creator, but it’s not difficult to find the real creator of this world. So how is it possible that the Almighty God (Purusha) himself was born from an egg (Viraj)? Doubt: If God is neither this nor that, then is God 'Nothing' (Shunya)? http://www.swamivivekananda.org.in/main/e-library/hymns/the-hymn-on-creation/. Upadhi means something different from God. 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The seniors invariably possess perfect right-mindedness concerning the theoretical framework. Similarly, God seems dharmamaya and a-dharmamaya on account of the various creatures engaged in dharma or dharma. (Mundaka Upanishad 3.1.7), 'God walks and holds without hands or legs, It sees without eyes and hears without ears'. ”[6] Who knew the way? The Divine includes contradiction in itself as part of the secret ways of creation and its patterns of schismatic partition of what elsewise would simply be the Divine Singularity. 100 Jars of Sura (Wine)/ Madhu (Honey) Subscribe at Answering Hinduism - Gnanis World: https://t.ly/CPLN 3 The Riddles In Hinduism By Dr B R Ambedkar, The Father Of Indian Constitution. If Purusha is the Almighty god then how come the Almighty God (Purusha) himself was born? Who there declared Whence this arose? God is. Counter Response to Scientific Errors in Hinduism/Vedas. However, we already know that there is nothing different from It. (Mantra 8), 'God is Not this, Not this (neti neti). Some Hindu scholars even say that scientists must read Purusha Sukta to know about the creation and cosmos, they say this Sukta is very unique. In order to understand Vedas, one has to first understand the intricate rules of Sanskrit grammar. However, the Brhadaranyaka Upanishad says: 'God is neither gross nor subtle, neither short nor long, neither shadow nor darkness, neither air nor space. Nirguna God is Para Brahman and Saguna is Apara Brahman. Thank you. (Isha Upanishad 5), 'God is very far, God is very near'. Prasna here speaks of attaining the "parama purusa." It’s mentioned in Rigved. Engaged in these auspicious activities he should then slowly and steadily give up interest in karma and internalizing his sadhana, start comprehending the formless, featureless God (Nirguna Brahman). It can remain away from it also. Do not insist on eating this fried potato, it … The Gods are later than this world’s production. Consider the following example: 'God has hands and legs everywhere, eyes, ears, heads and faces everywhere; and envelopes everything in this world.' from 800 AD. It is "Neti Neti", - Not This, Not This. So, both parts are equally important. But I still feel that alot of people with limited perspective will get very confused. Therefore, after having recognized an object through its upadhi, to know its true nature we have to discard the upadhi. Put thus, even the shape of a thing cannot fundamentally become an upadhi for God. How the creation of universe (or of earth) took place? Manu Smriti 1.31-32 But for the sake of the prosperity of the worlds he caused the Brahmana, the Kshatriya, the Vaisya, and the Sudra to proceed from his mouth, his arms, his thighs, and his feet. But scholars have different opinion on this word. When standing under a Ashok tree, tired and exhausted, she raised her right hand for seeking support of a branch of the tree…. By registering, you may receive account related information, our email newsletters and product updates, no more than twice a month. Do not insist on eating this fried potato, it is not good." This is the only faultless theory. Doubt: No, no. Recognising this as all-important to the world that is grants us the path to an open consciousness of God. Posted on 6 Sep 2019 6 Sep 2019 by pranjul It is contradictory for us because we do not have the intellect to understand the Vedic texts. If the driver of a vehicle injures a man, animal or property, he needs to be punished along with the owner of the vehicle…. But in spite of such contradiction, because we Hindus accept the Vedas as authority we accept cow dung as pure and allow it to be used even in the kitchen. Sharma, Prof. Ram Murti. A sadhaka in the initial stages of sadhana should accept God with both form and qualities, and then set out to perform ritual worship (puja) etc, as prescribed in the scriptures. To strengthen my argument I would like to quote next two verses of Atharva Veda 19.6.9 which would also clear the mist. Archaeological and historical evidence suggests that rural community existed even in the pre-Vedic age. Resolution: Many people say that God is both Nirguna and Saguna. The Vedas,the Scripture of the Hindus, are accepted as Apaurusheya, not man-made and timeless, are undoubtedly the earliest works of Sanatana Dharma, and the Vedas , especially the Rig Veda is considered to be first literature of Mankind.dated conservatively at 5000 BC. She was dying with shame but inside, like a true kshatrani (woman of the warrior race), she was burning with anger…. The word Viraj occurs in Atharva Veda 11.4.12 as Prana (Vital Spirit), in Atharva Veda 9.2.5 Viraj is translated as milch cow, and by Arya Samaj scholars as Splendid Speech [Goddess]. Todos los correos electrónicos se enviarán por, Carta informativa mensual - September 2010. At one place the Black Yajurveda (Taittriya Samhita) says: 'There is only one Rudra, and not a second.' In this manner, because the same Linga seems to take on the different color of its various upadhis, the only possible conclusion is that it is by itself colorless. Basic contradictions in Hinduism Shiva Purana declares that mankind was created by Shiva and you should worship Shiva etc. Some may try to twist and turn these verses to hide the fallacies of Vedas, but truth will remain truth. This is the dharma made by Brahma himself….he king who bears patiently when those in anguish insult him will be exalted in heaven…. Except in some classical forms in Lakshmi-Narayana imagery Lakshmi is ordinarily two-armed…. We cannot discard any part of the Vedas. Even then, the compassionate Vedas decide to explain God to us. The CREATOR is irrelevant to us. What is in it except water? Baba, Bhole. Todo comentario o sugerencia será bien recibida. (Shvetashvatara Upanishad 3.16 and Bhagavad Gita 13.13). Just then Arjuna saw his dear friend Bhagawan Krishna approaching him…. Consider the following example: We go to somebody and ask him what is gold? So, the way we can know God, who is the highest and purest layer, is through the OM (AUM) chant, because this sound vibration helps ourselves as consciousness to move to higher and higher levels, until we experience THAT which is verily God, e.g. Even those who do not believe in the existence of God … Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them — by Dr. Steven DiMattei God has dharma (dharmamaya), God does not have dharma (a-dharmamaya).' 1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? > Who truly knows? Nothing can be left out. If you continue like this you will get indigestion. A senior person is the one we should seek good advice from. Rig Veda says it were Vedic deities Indra and Varuna who created all living creatures, Rig Veda 7.82.5 O Indra-Varuna, as ye created all these creatures of the world by your surpassing might…. So long as avidya (ignorance) exists, there exist the upadhis and the various forms ascribed to God, allowing room for the worship of Saguna Brahman.'. It is clear that the composer or God of Vedas is not the creator. Such a reconciliation is known in Vedanta as 'samanvaya.'. Thus, the tradition does not totally reject or condemn the idea of the non-existence of God, although a majority of Hindus believe in him and worship him in numerous forms. But it makes the situation more complex because Vedas states in the beginning only Viraj was present and from him Purusha was born. Those who cannot know this accept the God defined by various upadhis and perform karmas and worship. Essentially methods of research are the same as in modern sciences but are more complete in the context of Vedas. However, he postponed his ‘nirvana’ for three months till he visited the places he had reminiscences of. May God bless you for it. Para Brahman is knowable, and Apara Brahman is attainable (Param gyatavyam, Aparam prapatavyam) – Shri Shankaracharya's commentary on the Katha Upanishad (1.2.16). Doubt: So the scriptures give sanction to both Saguna and Nirguna Brahman? It is far, It is near'. Whatever the shape may be, we will we get to know gold only. The next sutra gives the answer: 'Prakasha-vat cha a-vaiyyarthyat' (3.2.15): God assumes forms various forms like light, because no statement in the scriptures is without significance. As we try to follow this advice, a complex loving controversy becomes apparent. Sometimes one comes across references in the Ithihasa and Puranas , when related to the Vedas there is confusion. Atharva Veda 19.6.9 In the beginning rose Viraj: Purusha from Viraj was born. One fine morning, a man walking outside a house heard a ladies' sound from within: "Son, please drink milk, it is very good for your health. Maharishi Manu also makes blunder about the creation which contradicts Vedas also, but on this Viraj issue he tries to make it simple saying that it was Brahma who produced Viraj, He writes. This will help us make recommendations and send discounts and sale information at times. Another contradiction of love manifests itself in the relationship with the seniors. Thank you for your excellent books and outstanding prices! As soon as he was born he spread westward and eastward o’er the earth. I hope many many people will read this. Hence, it is clear that such a narrowing down of the meaning is not sufficient at all. Thus this section of the Upanisads cannot be used to support your concept, as it acknowledges a paramarthic saguna Brahman. We don’t care who or what created the world. ", "Both the Mahabharata and Shrimad Bhagavatam give a vivid description of how things are like in Kaliyuga…. Both these Suktas of the same Rig Veda are contradictory. He criticized the Qur’an’s concept of creation out of nothing which is similar to this 72nd hymn of Rigved Mandal 10. Thank you for such great customer service!! Thank you very much for your excellent article on 'the Nature of God'. Principal and Teacher, Contradictions in the Vedas Posted on November 19, 2019 July 31, 2020 by Ved Ka Bhed Written by Sulaiman Razvi Do mention the blog address and name of writer when you copy this article This article deals with contradictions in Vedas more particularly the Rig Veda. One fine morning, a man walking outside a house heard a ladies' sound from within: "Son, please drink milk, it is very good for your health. image. Standing still It surpasses other runners'. Veda says, Rig Veda 10.90.5 From him Viraj was born; again Purusa from Viraj was born…, The word Viraj here is translated by some as universe. God is fundamentally Nirguna only, but due to 'upadhi', seems Saguna. Furthermore the words Brahman and Parabrahman are common in the scripture and can readily be used to refer to the formless (Brahman) and Bhagavan (Parabrahman) expressions of the Absolute. Interpreted in this contextual way, everything fell beautifully into place and there remained no contradiction at all. However, what about the attributes 'not gross', 'not subtle', or 'not short' 'nor long'? ( Log Out /  'Fishermen, gamblers, all are God' (Atharvaveda, quoted by Shri Shankaracharya in Brahma Sutras 2.3.43). God has desire (kamamaya), God is without desire (a-kamamaya). When It assumes the form of the gods (Indra etc), it has a lustrous body made up of light, when It takes on the form of lower creatures like animals etc, it is said to have dark forms, lacking in light. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. God does not move. Basically, swamis, yogis and other masters teach that the nature of consciousness is layered. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The Vedas say that bone is untouchable but the conchshell which is also a bone is perfectly pure. Founder of Arya Samaj Swami Dayanand Saraswati argued against the creation of universe out of nothing. Thus, it becomes clear that Manu Smriti has to be interpreted ONLY in lines with Vedas. A man will consider only those people to be his relatives who are related to him through….The ashrams will be full of show-offs who are experts in the art of living off the food of others….. We can save ourselves from Kaliyuga. What then is the significance of the statements in Shruti (Vedas), where God is described as formless and without any qualities? Thus again we are saddled with contradictory features in God. Salam, I want to know what are the Unscientific/ Contradiction statements that are present in Vedas, BhagwatGita and other Hindu scriptures because during Dawah we can tell them that Human handiwork is involved in this this Scriptures? Definition from Wiktionary, the free dictionary. Some interpret Rig Veda 10.90.5 as, The almighty God created Viraj, and Viraj then created the Men (Purusha) or living creatures, they translate the later word Purusha literally as Men. This bliss is everywhere, The body cannot say " I am this" without "HE", If it says " It is the Ego that rises, I am this. It is not necessary that an 'upadhi' be always be in contact with the object we wish to understand. Article of the Month - September 2010. Sometimes it is red and sometimes it is not. The similarity is that both these Suktas talk about how the creation took place and the difference is that both these Suktas give a complete different picture of the creation. Now is the final throes of festive exuberance. Thus fundamentally God is One and upadhi-less. Do not insist on eating this fried potato, it is not good." It will not be an exaggeration to say that if we grasp the essence of this one term, much of Vedanta will fall into place for us, and things will become much easier to understand. Rama Sita in Vedas A Contradiction? Krishna Yajur Veda 6.3.5 The Sadhya gods were in this world and nothing else living. So much for the simple lady; but what about the Supreme Vedas? Shankaracharya Ji says: 'the shape of the effect too is fundamentally nothing but the cause itself' – karya-akaar api karanasya atmabhuta eva (Commentary on the Brahma Sutras, 2.1.18). Wonderful site and I’m sure I’ll be back! we can say that God has transcendental taste and smell. The following is a list of features typical to Kaliyuga…. A form of Lakshmi seated over a lotus laid over a golden seat and a pair of white elephants…. ", "Here is a fragment from one of the most poignant episodes of Indian history…. This in a nutshell, is the definition of suffering and happiness. I have heard that women who follow dharma were never brought before a public court….Greed is the destroyer of dharma. Rituals performed with knowledge leads to Sriman Narayana. The Prasna 5.2 speaks of ultimate spiritual attainment when it refers to two Brahmans. Scientific Basis for Vedic India 333,914 views One studious boy was being encouraged to go out and play, while an errant one was being forced to sit down and study. (Shvetashvatara Upanishad 3.19), 'God is light (tejomaya), God is without light (a-tejomaya). Any quality comes only through the association with upadhis. Shabir Ally. How then can it be Shunya? But No Hindus are seems to be taken in to granted these prophesies in their Vedas … Shudras have right to study Vedas and conduct Vedic rituals. Incarnation theory is the crux of Vaishnavism. Contradictions in Vedas:️ WHAT DID THE ASHWINS DRAW FROM HOOF OF THE HORSE? Women in Hinduism/Vedas Part 2. Scholars like Romila Thapar and D.D. In itself it is colorless. But one should not go to sleep with wet feet….A person who desires to live long should never irritate the following three…. God is swifter than the mind. Brahma Samhita says 'Govindam Adi Prusham' and Brahma Samhita gives all details of Bhagavan. Resolution: Not at all. Vedas juggles about the creator, but it’s not difficult to find the real creator of this world. So how is it possible that the Almighty God (Purusha) himself was born from an egg (Viraj)? Doubt: If God is neither this nor that, then is God 'Nothing' (Shunya)? http://www.swamivivekananda.org.in/main/e-library/hymns/the-hymn-on-creation/. Upadhi means something different from God. 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